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2022-08-29 :: We need more sub-languages

In my opinion, what we need is not new languages, but more sub-languages. By that I mean, either:

Examples of possible applications:

For related (and already implemented or prototyped) work on making deep-seated languages safer, I recommend to look at the papers written by Stephen Kell.

Specifically for the GNOME community, Kell writes about GObject and its introspection system (GIR) in Towards a dynamic object model within Unix processes, with liballocs. I didn't try testing it in practice against codebases I work on, but it would be valuable.

Why? A personal perspective

The workplace is more and more specialized, we cannot be generalist and specialists at the same time, and things like DevOps is just causing too much stress on already pretty overwhelmed computer scientists. (That's where we must not hesitate to subcontract).

Juggling between different languages and technologies can be difficult. I would rather be very proficient with a single main programming language and its standard library for which I have access to its main characteristics at my fingertips.

For build systems, the usual argument put forward for a DSL is that it's not dependent on a specific language implementation (and a specific version of it). But CMake has a somewhat special way to handle variables and scoping, and Meson totally lacks any variable scope (all variables are global, which makes me uncomfortable, but that's not an overall feeling among Meson users and authors).
So, why not a sub-set of the Java syntax, alongside a very small sub-set of its standard library, plus some classes specific to the build system. Running that kind of build instructions would work with a compliant Java runtime environment (JRE), but alternative implementations would be feasible too, if a sufficiently small sub-set of the language is carefully chosen. Most developers would at least feel at home.

Note: this is an opinion blog post, I don't intend to work in that area right in the near future :-)

Edit: more thoughts


P.S.: Note that I don't have practical experience for implementing some of the above, for example I never really designed a new or sub programming language. So take my thoughts with a grain of salt ;-) However I have experience for high-level plumbing and GUI application development (developer tools, mainly).

P.P.S.: Also I've had a (bad) experience being a "generalist + specialist" by myself (for small projects in the areas for which I was not a specialist). But CS has no mercy, computers are quite square. All the details need to be written (and it's unfeasible to anticipate all of them when being asked for a deadline estimation, by the way), and every flaw is just around the corner, it can haunt you at any and unpredictable times. Hence my preference for a single main programming language plus possibly several subsets of it instead of DSLs (and just be a developer or architect, not meddling with sysadmin stuff that I master far less well). And! work within a diverse team, being able to delegate work, subcontract like I already said, and so forth.


[1] To look up to a good vocabulary in CS, I refer to Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming (Peter Van Roy and Seif Haridi). For patient readers and happy bookworms (alongside a good cup of tea, coffee or whateverelse, but here it would more be a whole pan!), I can recommend that book.

Have fun, whoever gets to work on this :) - Andy Wingo

That's all for now, sometimes I feel like writing or reading, other times I feel more like programming! (in execution mode).

Last update: 2022-10-07
October 2022: rephrase and make some parts easier to understand.

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